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fishman3226
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 8:12 pm    Post subject: ACA another storty tomorrow TIME TO RIGHT THE WRONG Reply with quote

Tracy Whingeshaw has a story on the minority of child support payers who dont do the right thing.

Obviously, they wont publish the true story, but how about we help them find out the truth.

I call it theTISM CAMPAIGN - This is Serious (single) Mum

During tomorrow and Wednesday, I ask all non-custodial parents, second partners and anyone else prepared to to ring the good-ole people at ACA and ask them for a truthful story - lets break their switchboard.

Their numbers are...

Sydney:
P.O. Box 27
Willoughby NSW 2068
Ph: (02) 9439 4577

Melbourne:
P.O. Box 100
Richmond VIC 3121
Ph: (03) 9420 3232

Brisbane:
G.P.O. Box 72
Brisbane QLD 4001
Ph: (07) 3214 9890

Adelaide:
P.O. Box 9
North Adelaide SA 5006
Ph: (08) 8267 0298

Perth:
P.O. Box 99
Tuart Hill WA 6939
Ph: (08) 9449 9912

I am sure they wanna hear you.

Also after that, drop them a lovely letter of complaint to say hi.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mate, please don't associate TISM, 1 of Australia's greatest bands, with the sofa loafing single Mums out there. I expect they'll write a song about them 1 day & it will be our anthem.


What are ya?

Tism Fan (obviously).


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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: ACA another storty tomorrow TIME TO RIGHT THE WRONG Reply with quote

Who gives a flying F*** about the main stream media any more!

Even they have accepted the fact that thier readership is dwindling because they just SPIN LIES! Government propaganda to be exact, just like Adolf used to do!

Ignore the main stream media LIARS and get your real news from the weblogs just as millions of people are doing every day and the number is increasing daily at the expense of the MSM!
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Category: MAINSTREAM MEDIA

We are winning!

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason,

We are winning brother. And what a gem DOTA is, the show and forum has saved lives and enhanced the quality of life Children have with their Dads.

I remember the mocking glances those pricks at Channel 7 gave us at the FRC farce opening out at Penrith last year. The big mistake the mainstream media is making is that they think the net is just another stream/channel for them to exploit. Regardless, we can make history and they can report it.
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I was most annoyed that the miners hogged my opportunity to really cut sick at some gutter merchant journalists. BASTARDS! Razz
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:40 pm    Post subject: CSA: Joe Hockey said on A Current Affair tonight Reply with quote

Joe Hockey said on A Current Affair tonight (Wed 10 May 2006) that:

- "40% of fathers only pay $5 per week" ($10 per fortnight)

- he doesn't "like people who hide assets"

- "if someone accrues a debt we will pursue them to the grave"

No concerns with Joe about S U I C I D E S !!!

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Tony Luton (Luton v Lessels) was interviewed and is being ruined and driven into the ground by the CSA chasing manufactured debt.

http://www.hcourt.gov.au/registry/matters/matters_oct2001.htm
LUTON v. LESSELS & ANOR (C40/1995)
Date case stated: 14 March 2001

http://bar.austlii.edu.au/au/other//hca/bulletin/hcab0105.html
Luton v Lessels & Anor (C6/2001)
http://bar.austlii.edu.au/au/other//hca/bulletin/hcab0105.html#internal41

http://www.cdu.edu.au/law/apl/caselinks/casenotes/index.htm
Luton v Lessels [2002] HCA 13 (11 April 2002) - Ken Parish - Australian Public Law website - 15 April 2002

http://www.cdu.edu.au/law/apl/caselinks/casenotes/luton.htm
Challenge to child support laws rejected
Luton v Lessels [2002] HCA 13 (11 April 2002)
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/high_ct/2002/13.html

http://www.ema.gov.au/agd/FOI/Decisions_Summaries/1996/FOI_Decision_D377_Luton.htm
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION DECISION SUMMARY
D377 Re Anthony Ian Luton and Commissioner of Taxation MAY 1996

http://www.gtcentre.unsw.edu.au/publications/papers/docs/2003/84_SusanKenny.pdf
In reflecting on the work of the High Court in constitutional law in the ... adopted by the Court in four cases from last term. They are Luton v Lessels ...

http://www.ags.gov.au/publications/agspubs/legalpubs/litigationnotes/LN8.pdf
Luton v Lessels and Child Support Registrar. High Court of Australia, 11 April 2002. [2002] HCA 13; (2002) 187 ALR 529. Background ...

http://www.ags.gov.au/publications/agspubs/legalpubs/litigationnotes/LitNote08.htm
Validity of Child Support Scheme

The High Court unanimously upheld the constitutional validity of the scheme established by the Child Support (Assessment) Act 1989 and the Child Support (Registration and Collection) Act 1988. The Court held that the Registration and Collection Act did not impose taxation on a liable parent and therefore did not contravene s.55 of the Constitution (concerning the form of tax bills).

The Court also held that the Acts did not contravene Chapter III of the Constitution by conferring the judicial power of the Commonwealth on the Registrar of Child Support (who is given a power to determine assessments of liability to pay child support).

Luton v Lessels and Child Support Registrar

High Court of Australia, 11 April 2002
[2002] HCA 13; (2002) 187 ALR 529

http://www.csa.gov.au/update/pdf/nov01.pdf
11 October 2001, the High Court of Australia heard a constitutional challenge ... The case, Luton v. Lessels and Anor, will be a milestone ...

http://www.csa.gov.au/update/pdf/mar02.pdf
In a recent decision, the full bench of the High Court unanimously upheld the. constitutional validity of the child support legislation (Luton v Lessels and ...

http://www.law.mq.edu.au/html/undergraduate/pdf_studyguides/314_sg_06.pdf
down in the Constitution and as interpreted by the High Court, ... [Luton 2002 B&W 1065-1067] ? an amount already due and payable under an existing ...

http://www.mensrights.com.au/MRA_submit.pdf
A large question mark exists as a result of comments made in the Luton v. Lessels High Court Decision that seem to indicate that the relationship ...

http://austlii.law.uts.edu.au/au/journals/MqLJ/2004/4.html
SEPARATION OF POWERS, ?TRADITIONAL? ADMINISTRATION AND RESPONSIVE ...
Nevertheless, as we discuss in Part II, the High Court developed its separation of powers ... [80] Luton v Lessels (2002) 210 CLR 333, 389 (Callinan J). ...

http://ww5.cch.com.au/Tax+Cases/hca053.doc
HIGH COURT OF AUSTRALIA. GLEESON CJ,. McHUGH, GUMMOW, KIRBY, HAYNE, CALLINAN AND HEYDON JJ ... Luton v Lessels. 57 . The Mirror Taxes Act and s 55 ...

http://www.aph.gov.au/house/committee/jpaa/financial_bill/submissions/sub17.pdf
of this Submission). As part of the hearing of the case of Luton v Lessels, the. Solicitor-General informed the High Court that it is accepted by the ...

http://www.aph.gov.au/hansard/reps/commttee/R6870.pdf
Anthony Luton attempted to have the High Court rule that. the Child Support Agency was unconstitutional because it was acting in a judicial manner. ...

http://www.familycourt.gov.au/presence/resources/file/eb00da076349596/20012002.pdf
Annual Report 2001-2002
In Luton v Lessels (2002) 28 Fam LR 398, the High Court determined that. the scheme established by the Child Support (Registration and Collection) ...

http://www.familycourt.gov.au/presence/resources/file/eb0000424570270/2005_FamCA_827.pdf
FAMILY LAW ACT 1975 IN THE FULL COURT OF THE FAMILY COURT OF ...
of Luton ?v- Lessels heard in the High Court of ... determined by the High Court in Luton, namely whether or not the exercise of the ...
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps someone should ask Mr Hockey.

If only 40% of parents are paying the minimum what are the rest paying we seem to have gone in the last year from a large amount of non payers to a larger percentage of payers.

The beat on the story as far as I could see was still the dirty rotten dad who wont pay
The dad that had his business on the market and on the ex's say so he supposedly has another business, I thought I heard him say the other business was the new partners,
So was he a dirtbag cause he had a new partner that had a business and the ex cant put her fingers in that pie? or was she claiming that all his money is being hidden that way.

I know some do but why tar everyone with the same brush.
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I unfortunately due to the quality public transport systems provided by Victoria's connex and vline, missed this story.

Anyone noted too that the percentages the C$A spruik add up to 110%?
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recorded it so if u need specific information I can check it for you. PM me.

Joe Hockey is a disgrace, a minister of the crown no less, with his comment "chase you to the grave" is a little too close to comfort I would suggest. Time to release the C$A client suicide numbers yet Joe?

His values are completely out of order for the Liberal Party, it remains a cruel joke to the people of North Sydney that this clown continues to be tolerated by Howard. Surely we cannot be that bereft in that part of Sydney that Joe Hockey is the only member that can be pre-selected?

One of the Dads "interviewed" by ACA runs a little shop on eBay. His name is...CSAFU2... link to his feedback (98% positive) is here:

http://feedback.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dllViewFeedback&userid=csafu2&iid=4415200110&frm=284

time for a fair go, support a Dad who is being villified and denied a chance to tell his side.

Also - admin - thru eBay you might be able to contact and give this Dad a chance to tell his side? I'm particularly keen to learn of ACA's tactics on this man, no doubt there will be more.
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="dad2wun"]
One of the Dads "interviewed" by ACA runs a little shop on eBay. His name is...CSAFU2... link to his feedback (98% positive) is here:

http://feedback.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dllViewFeedback&userid=csafu2&iid=4415200110&frm=284

time for a fair go, support a Dad who is being villified and denied a chance to tell his side.

Also - admin - thru eBay you might be able to contact and give this Dad a chance to tell his side? I'm particularly keen to learn of ACA's tactics on this man, no doubt there will be more.[/quote]

Hey D2,

This is absolutely correct, doing this escalates the fathers movement to a new level! Going for the FEMINAZI throat. Getting the other side of the story and publishing it is what people want, (hence some current affairs weblogs having millions more readers per day than the MSN). it is well known now that the MSM are full of crap and only report half a story, the half that the femiNazi government want them to report otherwise government ad revenue will disappear for these media outlets, the BOGUS commie family destruction propaganda ad "Australia says no" is a prime example!

OUR MESSAGE NOW MUST BE to the FEMINAZI slime, YOU TELL PORKIES ON YOUR MEDIA OUTLETS, WE WILL TELL THE TRUTH ON OURS! LET'S PARTY!

I tried to contact CSAFU2 to invite him on the here so we can get his side, either interview or just by posting but when I clicked the link it came up, page not found. Can you please check the link posted.

Cheers.
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